Who am I?, Dada Bhagwan [thriller novels to read .TXT] 📗
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Questioner : Only God must have made it.
Dadashri : Then why is the whole world filled with worries? Everyone has worries. There is no being free of worries.
Questioner : That is because everyone worries.
Dadashri : Yes, but if God made this world, then why did he make it full of worries? If he is guilty of creating such miseries then, we should have him arrested. In reality God is not guilty. The people of the world have made him the culprit by calling him the “creator” of this world.
In reality, God is not the creator of this world at all. This is all Scientific Circumstantial Evidence. Therefore, all of this is a natural creation. In Gujarati, I call it Vyavasthit Shakti (Scientific Circumstantial Evidence). This is a very subtle fact.
THIS CANNOT BE CALLED LIBERATION
A child will say, “God made this.” Even a renowned holy man will say, “God made this.” This is a worldly viewpoint. It is not however, the Real viewpoint.
If God was the creator, then he would perpetually become our boss and there would be no such thing as liberation. But there is liberation. God is not the creator of this world. People who understand liberation will never accept God as a creator. Liberation and God as a ‘creator’ are two contradictory statements. ‘Creator’ is someone who does you a permanent favor and if God is such an entity, then you will always be indebted to him. As your creator, God will always be your boss and you will always be his subordinate. Even when you attain liberation he will be your superior, will he not?
Questioner : Yes, he will be our superior permanently.
Dadashri : Yes, he becomes our permanent ‘boss’ and therefore there is no liberation. Then liberation cannot be called ‘liberation’. Instead the ‘liberation’ with one’s wife would be better! At least you can enjoy her cooking, even if at times she insults you. Even with insults, such ‘liberation’ is preferable.
THEN, WHO MADE GOD ?
If we were to say that God is the creator in reality, then the logical question to ask would be, “Then who made God?” So many different questions would arise. People come and tell me, “We think that God is the ‘doer’ in this world and you are saying that this is not the case, but it is difficult for us to accept this.” At that time I ask them, “If I accept that God is the ‘doer’ of things, then who made this God? Tell me this much, who created the creator of this world? ” It is simply a logical statement that if there is a creator, then there has to be yet another creator of this creator. There would be no end to this. Therefore, such talk is really incorrect.
NEITHER A BEGINNING, NOR AN END TO THIS WORLD
All this has come about without anybody creating it.
Nobody has created it. Since nobody has created it, whom do we ask about it? I too, was searching for the one who had created such a chaotic mess and taken on such a liability. I looked everywhere for that person, but never found him anywhere.
I asked these scientists to discuss with me their evidence that God indeed had created this world. I asked them in which year it was created. They drew a blank. I then asked them whether the world had a beginning or not. They replied that there was a beginning. If there is a creator, then there has to be a beginning. If there is a beginning, then there has to be an end. In fact, this world is anadi-anant (no beginning-no end). This world carries on without an end. Therefore, there is neither a beginning nor an end. If there is no beginning, then there is no creator.
GOD’S CORRECT ADDRESS
Then these scientists asked me if all this meant that God did not exist. I told them that if God did not exist, there would be no experience of pleasure or pain for anyone in this world and therefore, God definitely exists. They asked me where God lives. I asked them where they thought he lived. They pointed towards the sky. I asked them where exactly was he to be found, what his precise address was and whether one could mail a letter to him. They did not know. I told them there is absolutely no one up there. Since everyone says that God lives up there (in the sky), I myself had gone there and checked (I have seen in my enlightened state that there is no one up there). I have looked for God there, but there is nobody up there, only the vast, open sky. Nobody lives up there. When they asked me for God’s correct address, I told them to write this statement down, “God is in every creature whether, visible or invisible. Not in creation.”
This record player is a manmade creation. God does not reside in any manmade things. God is present in all things that are naturally created. Therefore, God resides in every creature whether visible or invisible. There are infinite invisible creatures between you and me, which cannot be seen even under a microscope. God resides in all of them. Now what does God do? He only gives light to every living being. How you utilize that light is up to you. Whether you do good deeds like charity, or bad deeds like stealing, the responsibility is solely yours. Use this light for whatever purpose you want to.
You too, believe that he is up there don’t you? But there is no one up there. It is your wrong belief that someone is up there. I have come to reveal to you that all these beliefs are wrong and unless this is openly declared, things can never be resolved. All your wrong beliefs and confusion will remain. Traditional beliefs will not die.
THE WORLD IS THE PUZZLE ITSELF
“The world is the puzzle itself.” It has puzzled itself. God has not created this puzzle. If God had created this puzzle, then we could hold him accountable for all the suffering in this world. We would ask him why he makes people suffer. But God has not created this puzzle. God is God; God is the state of permanent bliss. We accuse him because of our own ignorance and that is our mistake. This is why this world has puzzled itself. No one else has created this puzzle.
Now if someone were to say, “Chandulal has no sense,” would it not give rise to a ‘puzzle’?
Questioner : Yes, it would.
Dadashri : If someone were to insult me right now, it would not faze me. But, for you the puzzle will arise because you are bound. The ropes of ignorance bind you. The wires of ignorance bind you.
Questioner : So how can this puzzle be solved for us?
Dadashri : “There are two viewpoints to solve this puzzle, one relative viewpoint and one real viewpoint. Real is permanent, relative is temporary. All these relatives are temporary adjustments and You are permanent.” Once you discover what is permanent, this puzzle is solved. All these ascetics and people in search of God, have not been able to solve this puzzle. Instead, they have become further entangled in it. I can help you solve this puzzle. I can do it for you in just one hour. Thereafter, this puzzle will not rise again.
You only need to understand this world as it is, and after that, you do not even have to memorize anything. Understand it just once. How has it come into existence? Why was it created? Who is God? Who is running this world? What is this all about? What is our Real form? After knowing all this, the puzzles will be solved forever.
SCIENTIFIC CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
Let us continue with this discussion. Ask whatever questions you need answers for.
Questioner : I do not understand this ‘Scientific Circumstantial Evidence.’
Dadashri : Scientific Circumstantial Evidence is the basis for all this. Without it, not even a single parmanoo (atom) in this world can be altered. When you are about to sit down for dinner, do you know what you are going to be served? Even the person who prepares the food does not know what he or she will prepare tomorrow. Even the amount of food you are going to ingest is very precisely determined, all the way down to the atomic level. What is the source that brings all of this together and makes it all happen? It is a wonder!
What is this meeting between you and I based upon? It is based solely upon Scientific Circumstantial Evidences. There are very subtle and incomprehensible causes behind this meeting. Find out what these causes are.
Questioner : How do we find these causes?
Dadashri : When you came to satsang here your belief was, “I came here today.” It is your wrong belief and egoism when you say, “I came,” and “I am going.” If I was to ask you why you did not come yesterday, you may point to your legs. So what am I to understand by this?
Questioner : That my legs were hurting.
Dadashri : Yes, your legs were hurting. You would blame your legs. Then if your legs were hurting yesterday, did your legs bring you here today or did you come here by yourself?
Questioner : It was my desire to come here and that is why I am here.
Dadashri : Yes, it is because of your desire you came. But because your legs and everything else was fine, you were able to come here. If your legs were not functioning well, would you have come?
Questioner : Then I would not have been able to come.
Dadashri : So then could you have come on your own accord? For example if a paralyzed man was to come here in a bullock cart, he would say, “I came,” but if we say to him, “Oh but your legs are paralyzed so how did you come here?” he would still insist that he came. But if I was to ask him, “Did you come or did the cart bring you here?” He would then reply, “The cart brought me here.” Then I would ask him, “Did the cart come here or was it the bullocks that brought the cart?”
Thus, your beliefs are so far from reality. Your ability to come here is dependent upon so many different circumstances. A lot of circumstances have to be just right and precise in order for you to be able to come here.
If you had a migraine, you may have to go back even after arriving on time. If you yourself were truly independent and came here on your own accord, your migraine would have no bearing upon your being here.
Or, if on your way here to satsang, you meet a friend who insists that you go with him then, you would have to turn back. Therefore, so many circumstances have to be just right. You would only be able to come to satsang provided there are no obstacles preventing you from coming.
PRINCIPLE OF CONVENIENCE
This is Scientific Circumstantial Evidence. Only when numerous circumstances come together can an event take place. However, you claim with egoism, “I did it.” You take credit for things that turn out good but blame others or bad luck when things do not turn out as planned. Some people blame it on negative circumstances, don’t they?
Questioner : Yes.
Dadashri : A person is proud of himself when he earns money, but when he incurs a loss or fails, he makes excuses or says, “God is upset with me.”
Questioner : This is a convenient excuse.
Dadashri : Yes convenient, but one should not accuse God of anything. It is okay if we accuse a lawyer or someone else, but how can we accuse God? A lawyer can file a suit and claim damages, but who will file this suit? Such accusations cause
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