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not commit adultery” for which they would be put to death under the
Law of Moses [Leviticus 20:10] and their body cast into Gehenna.
Christ is teaching them that if there is a danger that they may look on a woman to lust
after her, if their eye causes them to stumble, cut it out and cast it away. If taken literal a
disfigurement of their body would have been unlawful by the Old Testament Law they
were under. The lesson to them was that they were to remove anything from their lives,
which would cause them to be judged unworthy to be buried and their bodies to be cast
into Gehenna. Under the Law adultery was death and could therefore cause their whole
bodies to be cast into the fire and maggots in Gehenna [Leviticus 20:10-16]. The lesson
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to them and to us is that if something in our life that would cause us to be lost, even if it
is as dear to us as our eye or hand, it needs to be cut off unless the whole body be
destroyed, the removal of anything in our life that would cause us to be destroyed by God
as worthless trash was destroyed in Gehenna. Christ was saying to them anything in their
life; adultery or any other sin that would cause them to perish needed to be removed.
THOSE THAT USE THIS TO PROVE HELL DO NOT BELIEVE THAT TO "CUT
OFF" ANY PART OF THE BODY OF A LIVING PERSON WILL KEEP THAT
PERSON OUT OF HELL AFTER DEATH. TO THEM THE HAND AND THE EYE
ARE A LITERAL HAND OR EYE, BUT ACCORDING TO THEIR TEACHING "THE
WHOLE BODY" IS NOT A BODY AT ALL BUT A FORMLESS, NO SUBSTANCE,
INVISIBLE PART OF A PERSON THAT HAS NO BODY.
The loss of a hand or eye is contrasted with the lost of the whole body [of which
the hand was a part] by being cast into Gehenna, not the loss of a hand being
contrasted with the soul [of which the hand was NOT a part] being cast into Hell.
The "eye" and the "right hand" are a part of the "whole body." No one can cut off the
hand of a soul which they say has no substance and Christ does not change from parts of
the earthly body to something that most who believe in "it" says "it" has no body. No one
that I know of who believes Hell is an eternal place of torment believes the human body
or any part of it will be eternally tormented by God in that eternal place. In the same
sentence, did Christ change from a literal physical hand to a "soul"? IF THE "WHOLE
BODY" IS A FORMLESS NO SUBSTANCE SOUL, THEN THE "HAND," WHICH
WAS CUT OFF THIS BODY IS A PART OF THE "WHOLE BODY," AND WOULD
ALSO BE A FORMLESS NO SUBSTANCE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD NOT
CUT OFF, AND IF WE COULD, THEN THE CUT OFF HAND OF AN IMMORTAL
SOUL WOULD BE AS IMMORTAL AS THE REST OF THE NO SUBSTANCE
FORMLESS SOUL FROM WHICH IT WAS CUT OFF. IN TODAY'S THEOLOGY
NO ONE BELIEVES YOU CAN CUT OFF THE HAND OF A SPIRIT SO THAT
THE REST OF THE SPIRIT WILL NOT GO TO HELL. The "whole body" is not a
spirit that will go to Hell [Gehenna], but this spirit will not go to Hell if the hand of the
soul or spirit had been cut off. It is the hand that is a part of this earthly body that is to be
cut off that the whole earthly body would not be cast into a real earthy valley. Today this
has been changed to an invisible immortal hand that cannot die, but it is to be cut off an
immortal soul that cannot die because if it is not cut off the soul that cannot die will be
cast into a place of torment that is not on this earth. I have never heard anyone say what
he or she thinks will happen to the cut off immortal hand that cannot die. No one that I
know of believes the "soul" shall "enter into life," which he or she says is Heaven, with a
cut off hand of that soul in Hell. The "soul" in Heaven but its "hand" in Hell! They don't
believe that a disfigurement of the body, whether it is a self inflicted disfigurement or any
other disfigurement, will be passed onto the immaterial, invisible part of a person in
Heaven. Neither do they believe any person has the power to cut of any part of his soul.
Most that believe in "Hell" make this cutting off the hand be figurative language meaning
to remove anything from our lives that will cause us to sin, but they want to take just this
one word in the sentence be literal. They must first mistranslate "Gehenna" into "Hell"
and then make just this one word out of context and make it be literal. Gehenna must be
changed to Hell and made literal, but the cutting off the hand that is cast into Hell cannot
be literal.
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"Though his followers were called to suffer the loss of all things; though the hand of persecution
might be raised against kindred and friends, yet, better to enter into life thus maimed, than to
cling to those friends and share with them the judgments of God, figuratively represented by
Gehenna fire. Jesus required his disciples to forsake all for him. He said: 'Whoso loves father or
mother more than me, is not worthy of me.' Those who loved ease and fame and popularity
more than him and his unpopular cause were not worthy of him. As though Jesus has said: 'In
embracing my cause, now unpopular, now scorned and rejected by the world, the chief priests
and rulers, you may be called upon to part with something dear to you as a member of your
body; some dear friend may turn coldly from you and forsake you; it may be like severing a limb
from the body; like cutting off a hand, or plucking out an eye; yet, better to enter into life thus
maimed; better to cherish the hope of everlasting life at this great sacrifice, than to reject the
truth, and remain in a state of unbelief and moral blindness'" D. P. Livermore, "Endless
Punishment" Page 49, 1864.
"Perish" must be made to mean, "preserve." God's word says He will destroy the soul,
but many change this and make it say God will preserve the soul forever. There seems to
be no end to the changes they are willing to make. "Destroy the body and soul" must be
changed to "preserve the soul but destroy the body."
A dead body part or a whole dead body being cast into the city dump [Gehenna] to be
destroyed by fire or worms is not a picture of a living immortal soul being tormented
forever. There is no suggestion of eternal torment in this. THERE IS NOTHING, NOT
ONE WORD ABOUT AN IMMORTAL SOUL OR AN IMMORTAL SPIRIT IN
THIS PASSAGE. It was their "whole body" that would be cast into Gehenna; nothing is
said about an immaterial, invisible part of a person that will be cast into "Hell, nothing
about eternal torment." INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT IMMORTAL SOULS WILL
BURN FOREVER IN GEHENNA IT SAYS THE BODY WILL BE DESTROYED IN
GEHENNA. Nothing is said about an immaterial part of a person in Matthew 5:22, 29 or
30. "Soul" is not in Matthew 5. IT HAS BEEN CHANGED AND PREACHED TODAY
THAT THE "SOUL" WILL BE CAST INTO "HELL," NOT THE WHOLE BODY
CAST INTO THE GEHENNA THOSE HEARING CHRIST WOULD KNOW ABOUT.
THIS PASSAGE IS ONE OF THE MOST USED PASSAGE TO PROVE A PERSON
HAS IN IMMATERIAL PART THAT WILL BE IN AN ETERNAL PLACE OF
TORMENT, BUT NEITHER (1) A IMMATERIAL PART OF A PERSON (2) OR A
PLACE OF ETERNAL TORMENT IS IN IT. EVERYTHING THAT CHRIST SAID IS
CHANGED AND THAT BY THOSE THAT SAY THEY DO NOT CHANGE THE
BIBLE.
[3] The third, "You have heard you shall not forswear yourself" [Matthew 5:33].
[4] The fourth, "You have heard…an eye for an eye” [Matthew 5:38].
[5] The fifth, "You have heard…love your neighbor” [Matthew 5:43].
All five of the "you have heard" are about judgments of the Old Testament Law
that had punishment in this life, not about things in the life after the resurrection
and judgment. BEING CAST INTO GEHENNA IS AN EARTHLY JUDGMENT
MIXED (in the same context) WITH OTHER EARTHLY JUDGMENTS. This is the
first time Christ used the term Gehenna; if He had used it to teach endless torment, He
said nothing that those hearing Him, or those who read His words today, could know He
was speaking of anything more than an earthly judgment; there is absolutely no
indication He was speaking of eternal torment of a “soul.”
214
THE SECOND OCCASION
IN A LESSON TO THE TWELVE DISCIPLES
"FEAR HIM, WHO AFTER HE HAS KILLED HAS POWER TO CAST INTO
GEHENNA" Luke 12:4-5; GOD IS ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND
BODY IN GEHENNA Matthew 10:28. This was spoken to the twelve apostles when
they were sent forth to preach, "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" [Matthew 10:1-28].
He was persecuted, and they would be, but they were to "Fear them not." "But I will
warn you whom you shall fear: fear him, who AFTER HE HAS KILLED has power to
cast into Gehenna" [Luke 12:4-5]. "AFTER HE HAS KILLED" must be changed to
"ALIVE BUT SEPARATED FROM GOD" to fit today's teaching for an immortal soul
cannot be killed and this passage must be made to teach an immortal soul that cannot be
killed is alive and tormented in "Hell." After all, they cannot have God killing an
immortal soul before He cast it into "Hell" could they?
Man can destroy the life we now have, but God alone is able to destroy [Apollumi]
both soul [life-psukee] and body in Gehenna "AFTER HE HAS KILLED." To prove Hell,
many have this earthly body tormented in Hell after the Judgment Day. If both the body
and soul are destroyed in Gehenna proves an immortal "immaterial, invisible part of
man" [W. E. Vine] that cannot die will be tormented in Hell, then it also proves the
earthy body will be tormented in Hell. IF THE "IMMATERIAL, INVISIBLE PART OF
MAN" CANNOT DIE BECAUSE IT IS IMMORTAL FROM BIRTH, GOD COULD
DO NO MORE THAN A MAN. HE COULD ONLY DESTROY [KILL] THE BODY,
BUT NOT THE IMMORTAL "IMMATERIAL, INVISIBLE PART OF MAN" THAT
CANNOT DIE AND CANNOT BE DESTROYED. Was Jesus telling the twelve apostles
not to fear God? He was if the soul [psukee] is immortal from birth and cannot be killed.
Does it mean what it says, or does "destroy," mean to "torment forever," as today's
theology interprets and demands? If it were as is taught today that destroy means torment,
and Gehenna means Hell, then they have God tormenting both this body of flesh and the
"soul" in Hell forever, which is more than they want it to say, but when they change
Gehenna to "Hell," this passage teaches something that even those who make the change
do not believe. Will this earthly body be in "Hell" and be immortal? If it is to be
tormented forever in "Hell," then the earthly body is as immortal as the soul is.
When a person has killed the body, he can do no more. At the worse, a person can only
take a few years of life from you, but there will be a resurrection and God can take an
eternity of life from you.
God has the power to kill, or the power to torment (if He was that kind of a God, a
Law of Moses [Leviticus 20:10] and their body cast into Gehenna.
Christ is teaching them that if there is a danger that they may look on a woman to lust
after her, if their eye causes them to stumble, cut it out and cast it away. If taken literal a
disfigurement of their body would have been unlawful by the Old Testament Law they
were under. The lesson to them was that they were to remove anything from their lives,
which would cause them to be judged unworthy to be buried and their bodies to be cast
into Gehenna. Under the Law adultery was death and could therefore cause their whole
bodies to be cast into the fire and maggots in Gehenna [Leviticus 20:10-16]. The lesson
212
to them and to us is that if something in our life that would cause us to be lost, even if it
is as dear to us as our eye or hand, it needs to be cut off unless the whole body be
destroyed, the removal of anything in our life that would cause us to be destroyed by God
as worthless trash was destroyed in Gehenna. Christ was saying to them anything in their
life; adultery or any other sin that would cause them to perish needed to be removed.
THOSE THAT USE THIS TO PROVE HELL DO NOT BELIEVE THAT TO "CUT
OFF" ANY PART OF THE BODY OF A LIVING PERSON WILL KEEP THAT
PERSON OUT OF HELL AFTER DEATH. TO THEM THE HAND AND THE EYE
ARE A LITERAL HAND OR EYE, BUT ACCORDING TO THEIR TEACHING "THE
WHOLE BODY" IS NOT A BODY AT ALL BUT A FORMLESS, NO SUBSTANCE,
INVISIBLE PART OF A PERSON THAT HAS NO BODY.
The loss of a hand or eye is contrasted with the lost of the whole body [of which
the hand was a part] by being cast into Gehenna, not the loss of a hand being
contrasted with the soul [of which the hand was NOT a part] being cast into Hell.
The "eye" and the "right hand" are a part of the "whole body." No one can cut off the
hand of a soul which they say has no substance and Christ does not change from parts of
the earthly body to something that most who believe in "it" says "it" has no body. No one
that I know of who believes Hell is an eternal place of torment believes the human body
or any part of it will be eternally tormented by God in that eternal place. In the same
sentence, did Christ change from a literal physical hand to a "soul"? IF THE "WHOLE
BODY" IS A FORMLESS NO SUBSTANCE SOUL, THEN THE "HAND," WHICH
WAS CUT OFF THIS BODY IS A PART OF THE "WHOLE BODY," AND WOULD
ALSO BE A FORMLESS NO SUBSTANCE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD NOT
CUT OFF, AND IF WE COULD, THEN THE CUT OFF HAND OF AN IMMORTAL
SOUL WOULD BE AS IMMORTAL AS THE REST OF THE NO SUBSTANCE
FORMLESS SOUL FROM WHICH IT WAS CUT OFF. IN TODAY'S THEOLOGY
NO ONE BELIEVES YOU CAN CUT OFF THE HAND OF A SPIRIT SO THAT
THE REST OF THE SPIRIT WILL NOT GO TO HELL. The "whole body" is not a
spirit that will go to Hell [Gehenna], but this spirit will not go to Hell if the hand of the
soul or spirit had been cut off. It is the hand that is a part of this earthly body that is to be
cut off that the whole earthly body would not be cast into a real earthy valley. Today this
has been changed to an invisible immortal hand that cannot die, but it is to be cut off an
immortal soul that cannot die because if it is not cut off the soul that cannot die will be
cast into a place of torment that is not on this earth. I have never heard anyone say what
he or she thinks will happen to the cut off immortal hand that cannot die. No one that I
know of believes the "soul" shall "enter into life," which he or she says is Heaven, with a
cut off hand of that soul in Hell. The "soul" in Heaven but its "hand" in Hell! They don't
believe that a disfigurement of the body, whether it is a self inflicted disfigurement or any
other disfigurement, will be passed onto the immaterial, invisible part of a person in
Heaven. Neither do they believe any person has the power to cut of any part of his soul.
Most that believe in "Hell" make this cutting off the hand be figurative language meaning
to remove anything from our lives that will cause us to sin, but they want to take just this
one word in the sentence be literal. They must first mistranslate "Gehenna" into "Hell"
and then make just this one word out of context and make it be literal. Gehenna must be
changed to Hell and made literal, but the cutting off the hand that is cast into Hell cannot
be literal.
213
"Though his followers were called to suffer the loss of all things; though the hand of persecution
might be raised against kindred and friends, yet, better to enter into life thus maimed, than to
cling to those friends and share with them the judgments of God, figuratively represented by
Gehenna fire. Jesus required his disciples to forsake all for him. He said: 'Whoso loves father or
mother more than me, is not worthy of me.' Those who loved ease and fame and popularity
more than him and his unpopular cause were not worthy of him. As though Jesus has said: 'In
embracing my cause, now unpopular, now scorned and rejected by the world, the chief priests
and rulers, you may be called upon to part with something dear to you as a member of your
body; some dear friend may turn coldly from you and forsake you; it may be like severing a limb
from the body; like cutting off a hand, or plucking out an eye; yet, better to enter into life thus
maimed; better to cherish the hope of everlasting life at this great sacrifice, than to reject the
truth, and remain in a state of unbelief and moral blindness'" D. P. Livermore, "Endless
Punishment" Page 49, 1864.
"Perish" must be made to mean, "preserve." God's word says He will destroy the soul,
but many change this and make it say God will preserve the soul forever. There seems to
be no end to the changes they are willing to make. "Destroy the body and soul" must be
changed to "preserve the soul but destroy the body."
A dead body part or a whole dead body being cast into the city dump [Gehenna] to be
destroyed by fire or worms is not a picture of a living immortal soul being tormented
forever. There is no suggestion of eternal torment in this. THERE IS NOTHING, NOT
ONE WORD ABOUT AN IMMORTAL SOUL OR AN IMMORTAL SPIRIT IN
THIS PASSAGE. It was their "whole body" that would be cast into Gehenna; nothing is
said about an immaterial, invisible part of a person that will be cast into "Hell, nothing
about eternal torment." INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT IMMORTAL SOULS WILL
BURN FOREVER IN GEHENNA IT SAYS THE BODY WILL BE DESTROYED IN
GEHENNA. Nothing is said about an immaterial part of a person in Matthew 5:22, 29 or
30. "Soul" is not in Matthew 5. IT HAS BEEN CHANGED AND PREACHED TODAY
THAT THE "SOUL" WILL BE CAST INTO "HELL," NOT THE WHOLE BODY
CAST INTO THE GEHENNA THOSE HEARING CHRIST WOULD KNOW ABOUT.
THIS PASSAGE IS ONE OF THE MOST USED PASSAGE TO PROVE A PERSON
HAS IN IMMATERIAL PART THAT WILL BE IN AN ETERNAL PLACE OF
TORMENT, BUT NEITHER (1) A IMMATERIAL PART OF A PERSON (2) OR A
PLACE OF ETERNAL TORMENT IS IN IT. EVERYTHING THAT CHRIST SAID IS
CHANGED AND THAT BY THOSE THAT SAY THEY DO NOT CHANGE THE
BIBLE.
[3] The third, "You have heard you shall not forswear yourself" [Matthew 5:33].
[4] The fourth, "You have heard…an eye for an eye” [Matthew 5:38].
[5] The fifth, "You have heard…love your neighbor” [Matthew 5:43].
All five of the "you have heard" are about judgments of the Old Testament Law
that had punishment in this life, not about things in the life after the resurrection
and judgment. BEING CAST INTO GEHENNA IS AN EARTHLY JUDGMENT
MIXED (in the same context) WITH OTHER EARTHLY JUDGMENTS. This is the
first time Christ used the term Gehenna; if He had used it to teach endless torment, He
said nothing that those hearing Him, or those who read His words today, could know He
was speaking of anything more than an earthly judgment; there is absolutely no
indication He was speaking of eternal torment of a “soul.”
214
THE SECOND OCCASION
IN A LESSON TO THE TWELVE DISCIPLES
"FEAR HIM, WHO AFTER HE HAS KILLED HAS POWER TO CAST INTO
GEHENNA" Luke 12:4-5; GOD IS ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND
BODY IN GEHENNA Matthew 10:28. This was spoken to the twelve apostles when
they were sent forth to preach, "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" [Matthew 10:1-28].
He was persecuted, and they would be, but they were to "Fear them not." "But I will
warn you whom you shall fear: fear him, who AFTER HE HAS KILLED has power to
cast into Gehenna" [Luke 12:4-5]. "AFTER HE HAS KILLED" must be changed to
"ALIVE BUT SEPARATED FROM GOD" to fit today's teaching for an immortal soul
cannot be killed and this passage must be made to teach an immortal soul that cannot be
killed is alive and tormented in "Hell." After all, they cannot have God killing an
immortal soul before He cast it into "Hell" could they?
Man can destroy the life we now have, but God alone is able to destroy [Apollumi]
both soul [life-psukee] and body in Gehenna "AFTER HE HAS KILLED." To prove Hell,
many have this earthly body tormented in Hell after the Judgment Day. If both the body
and soul are destroyed in Gehenna proves an immortal "immaterial, invisible part of
man" [W. E. Vine] that cannot die will be tormented in Hell, then it also proves the
earthy body will be tormented in Hell. IF THE "IMMATERIAL, INVISIBLE PART OF
MAN" CANNOT DIE BECAUSE IT IS IMMORTAL FROM BIRTH, GOD COULD
DO NO MORE THAN A MAN. HE COULD ONLY DESTROY [KILL] THE BODY,
BUT NOT THE IMMORTAL "IMMATERIAL, INVISIBLE PART OF MAN" THAT
CANNOT DIE AND CANNOT BE DESTROYED. Was Jesus telling the twelve apostles
not to fear God? He was if the soul [psukee] is immortal from birth and cannot be killed.
Does it mean what it says, or does "destroy," mean to "torment forever," as today's
theology interprets and demands? If it were as is taught today that destroy means torment,
and Gehenna means Hell, then they have God tormenting both this body of flesh and the
"soul" in Hell forever, which is more than they want it to say, but when they change
Gehenna to "Hell," this passage teaches something that even those who make the change
do not believe. Will this earthly body be in "Hell" and be immortal? If it is to be
tormented forever in "Hell," then the earthly body is as immortal as the soul is.
When a person has killed the body, he can do no more. At the worse, a person can only
take a few years of life from you, but there will be a resurrection and God can take an
eternity of life from you.
God has the power to kill, or the power to torment (if He was that kind of a God, a
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