Immortality or Resurrection (Updated), William West [black female authors .txt] 📗

OF ETERNAL TORMENT FROM
WHICH NONE WILL EVER BE DELIVERED. It is no wonder that the New King
James took "Hell" out of this passage.
IF THIS PASSAGE WERE BELIEVED AS IT IS TRANSLATED IN THE KING
JAMES VERSION, USING THE WORDS "SOUL" AND "HELL" AS THEY ARE
USED AND UNDERSTOOD TODAY IT WOULD TEACH:
• THE SOUL CAN BE IN HELL AND BE TORMENTED WHEN THE
PERSON IS STILL LIVING ON EARTH, BEFORE DEATH.
• THE SOUL CAN COME BACK FROM HELL. A soul in Hell can be
delivered from Hell! Also 1 Samuel 2:6; Psalms 16:10: 30:3 49:15; 88:3.
• THERE IS MORE THAN ONE HELL. If there were a "lowest hell," there
would have to be one or more Hells above it. Does anyone believe that are many
Hells?
• THE SOUL OF THE RIGHTEOUS CAN BE IN HELL. The soul of David
would have had to be in Hell if it was delivered from Hell.
• SOULS ARE IN HELL BEFORE THE JUDGMENT DAY.
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In trying to put Hell in the Bible, they made a mess of things, a mess that no one
believes, not even the translators that made the mess. In the next verse it is clearly
indicated that this is deliverance from a threat of death from those who sought his life. "O
God, arrogant men have risen up against me, and a band of violent men have sought my
life [nehphesh]" [New American Standard Bible].
In this Psalm the beliefs of the translators give them only two choices. They had to:
• Put a soul that could not be dead in the grave
• Or put a soul in Hell
There choice was to put a soul in Hell even if it was David’s soul in Hell before his death.
(5) Psalms 116:3 "The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of HELL [gravesheol]
[HELL CHANGED TO SHEOL IN NEW KING JAMES VERSION] gat hold
upon me: I found trouble and sorrow. Then called I upon the name of the Lord; O Lord, I
beseech thee, deliver my soul." The writer could see that death and the grave may be
close. When they translated sheol into Hell did they not put the righteous in Hell? Did he
pray that his soul be taken out of Hell while he was living, when according to today's
teaching his soul would not have been in Hell? The New King James Version did not
think so and changed Hell to sheol. His trouble and sorrow were in this life, and he called
upon the name of the Lord to deliver him from death and the grave, which he thought was
near, not to deliver him from Hell when he was not in Hell.
(6) Psalms 139:8 "If I ascend up into heaven, you are there: if I make my bed in HELL
[grave-sheol], behold, you are there." He is saying God is everywhere, He is
omnipresent. There is nowhere one can go away from God for He can reach into the
grave and raise the dead. The King James Version makes God be in Hell, but if He were,
then those in Hell would not be away from the presence of God and death would not be a
separation from God as some teach it is. Sleep is used as a metaphor of death throughout
the Bible. "If I make my bed in Sheol" [Hell in the King James Version], those who
believe in Hell do not believe those in Hell will have a bed and sleep. If David had made
his bed in Hell, this would be saying one of the good guys was asleep in Hell? See
GATHERED TO HIS PEOPLE - WAKENING UP AT THE RESURRECTION in
chapter three on the use of sleep in the Bible.
• Also 2 Samuel 22:5-6; Psalms 18:3-6 David was in fear of death (not in fear of
Hell as is translated in the King James Version) and was running from Saul who
was trying to kill him. Also Psalms 86:13; 116:3-4; Jonah 2:2
• Most of the times when sheol is referring to the good it is translated grave. See
Genesis 37:35; 42:38; 4429: 44:31; Job 14:13; 17:13-16; Psalms 49:15 etc.
(7) Jonah 2:2 "And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he
heard me; out of the belly of HELL [grave-sheol] ["grave" in margin of King James
Version] [HELL CHANGED TO SHEOL IN NEW KING JAMES VERSION] cried I,
and you heard my voice." In the belly of the great fish was a dark covered place as the
grave is but nothing like a place of torture in fire brimstone. Jonah was not dead and
neither the Catholics, Protestants, nor the after judgment versions of Hell believe that a
person can be in Hell before his death or that he can come back to this world from Hell.
For 374 years [from 1611 to 1985] the readers of the King James Version were told Jonah
was in Hell, then the New Kings James Version came along and said not so, he was in
sheol. This passage is as are many others, difficult to see how the King James translators
thought they could get their view of "Hell" out of it even when they mistranslated it.
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1. NO ONE BELIEVES HELL IS IN THE BELLY OF A GREAT FISH.
2. DO ANY BELIEVE A LIVING PERSON IN THE FLESH CAN EVER BE IN
HELL?
3. OR THAT ANYONE THAT DOES GO TO HELL WILL EVER COME OUT
OF IT TO LIVE ON THIS EARTH?
BUT THE KING JAMES VERSION MAKES ALL THREE OF THESE TRUE. DID
THE TRANSLATORS BELIEVE WHAT THEY MADE THIS PASSAGE SAY? DOES
ANY ONE THAT BELIEVES IN HELL BELIEVE WHAT THEY MADE IT SAY?
The bad in Hell
In only 8 of the 54 passages that have sheol.
(1) Psalms 55:15 "Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into HELL
[sheol-grave in the margin of the King James Version]: for wickedness is in their
dwellings, and among them." David is asking that they die and go to SHEOL [the grave]
quickly. He is not asking that they be tormented in Hell forever. Those who believe in the
after judgment Hell do not believe the wicked go quickly to Hell at death, but some of
them are desperate enough for proof of their Hell that they use this and other verses like
it. Though this is the twenty-ninth time sheol is used, it is only the eighth time Hell is in
the New King James Version. Numbers 16:29-33 is similar. "If these men die the death of
all men, or if they suffer the fate of all men, then the Lord has not sent me. But, if the
Lord brings about an entirely new thing and the ground opens its mouth and swallows
them up with all that is theirs, and they descend alive into SHEOL [grave-sheol, PIT in
King James Version], then you will understand that these men have spurned the Lord.
Then it came about as he finished speaking all these words, that the ground that was
under them split opened; and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, and
their households, and all the men who belonged to Korah, with their possession, So they
and all that belonged to them went down alive to SHEOL [sheol-grave-pit in King James
Version]; and they perished from the midst of the assembly" New American Standard
Bible. Their possessions went into the grave with them, but those who believe in Hell do
not believe anyone can take their possessions to Hell. If they had translated this "sheol"
into "Hell," it would have put Hell in a hole in the ground and on this earth.
• Psalms 55:15 "Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into HELL
[sheol] for wickedness is in their dwellings."
• Psalms 32:17 "Let the wicked be ashamed, and let them be silent in the GRAVE
[sheol]." The King James translators did not know whether they wanted the
wicked in the grave or in Hell. They most certainly are not the same place. Did
they divide up the dead and put some in Hell, some in the grave, and some in a
hole in the ground? Sheol is translated grave and Hell at random.
Hebrew dualism where the same thing is said in two ways is used throughout Psalms
and Proverbs. Sheol is used in dualism repeatedly.
Psalms 30:3
1. "O lord, you have brought up my soul from the GRAVE [sheol-Hell]:
2. You have kept me alive."
Psalms 55:15
1. "Let death seize upon them,
2. And let them go down quick into HELL [sheol-grave]."
Psalms 89:48
1. "What man is he that lives and shall not see death?
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2. Shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the GRAVE [sheol-Hell]."
Psalms 116:3-4
1. "The sorrows of death compassed me,
2. And the pains of HELL [sheol-grave] gat hold upon me."
Proverbs 5:5
1. "Her feet go down to death:
2. Her steps take hold on HELL [sheol-grave]."
Proverbs 7:27
1. "Her house is the way to HELL [sheol-grave],"
2. "Going down to the chambers of death."
Proverbs 9:18
1. "But he knows not that the dead are there;
2. and that her guests are in the depths of HELL [sheol-grave]."
Proverbs 15:10-11
1. "He that hates reproof shall die.
2. HELL [sheol-grave] and destruction are before the Lord."
Isaiah 38:18
• "For the GRAVE [sheol-Hell] cannot praise you,
• Death cannot celebrate you."
(2) Proverbs 5:5 "Her feet go down to death: her steps take hold on HELL [gravesheol]."
Through out the poetry books, a statement is made and then for emphasis will be
repeated in a different way.
1. "Her feet going down to death" is repeated for emphasis
2. "Her steps taking hold on sheol [the grave]."
Adultery had the death penalty under the Law [Leviticus 20:10-16]; they were stoned
to death [John 83-11]; even today many die from Aids and other incurable sexual
diseases. In Proverbs 1:11-12, it was the innocent victims of the evil, therefore, the King
James Version puts the victims in the grave; but in Proverbs 5:5, it is the evil women,
therefore, the King James Version puts her in Hell even though they had to translated the
same word into two completely difference places, even though they had to make the same
word be both a common noun and a proper noun; even though the same word cannot be
both. Proverbs 5 is about prostitutes, and it says of those that go to them, "And you groan
at your latter end, when your flesh and your body are consumed" [Proverbs 5:11].
(3) Proverbs 7:27 Another Hebrew dualism where the same thing is said in two ways.
Going down to the chambers of death is the same as the way to the grave [sheol].
Proverbs 7 is a comparison of keeping God’s commandments or not keeping them
pictured as being enticed by an adulteress woman.
• "Her house is the way to sheol"
• "Going down to the chambers of death,"
“Do not let your heart turn aside to her ways, do not stray into her paths. For many are
the victims she has cast down, and numerous are all her slain. Her house is the way to
the grave, descending to the chambers of death” [Proverbs 7:25-27].
(4) Proverbs 9:18 "But he knows not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in
the depths of HELL [grave-sheol]." Proverbs 9 is a comparison of wisdom and folly with
folly pictured as a wicked woman and those who come to her dying a premature death.
1. "The dead are there"
2. "Her guests are in the depths of sheol [the grave]" is a repeat of the same thing.
(5) Proverbs 15:11 "Correction is grievous unto him that forsakes the way: and